Comments on: Removal of Ogg Vorbis and Theora from HTML5: an outrageous disaster http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/ We only do fun stuff. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:02:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Web Developer Notes » Blog Archive » When will HTML 5 support &lt;video>? Sooner if you help http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-507173 Web Developer Notes » Blog Archive » When will HTML 5 support &lt;video>? Sooner if you help Thu, 01 May 2008 13:45:16 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-507173 <p>[...] when Rudd-O’s article says, “Nokia and Apple have privately pushed to give Ogg the noose treatment,” [...]</p> [...] when Rudd-O’s article says, “Nokia and Apple have privately pushed to give Ogg the noose treatment,” [...]

]]> By: Nokia » Blog Archive » Nokia and Apple seem to have succeeded in suppressing ogg http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-486834 Nokia » Blog Archive » Nokia and Apple seem to have succeeded in suppressing ogg Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:32:50 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-486834 <p>[...] read more | digg story [...]</p> [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: HTML5 ya no tendrá Ogg Vorbis/Theora en su estándar | XKOD http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-438330 HTML5 ya no tendrá Ogg Vorbis/Theora en su estándar | XKOD Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:47:52 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-438330 <p>[...] no formará parte de su estándar. Esta nefasta decisión se ha visto influenciada por la presión ejercida por Nokia y Apple que apuestan por una internet móvil cargada de multimedia y de la que ya tienen los codecs [...]</p> [...] no formará parte de su estándar. Esta nefasta decisión se ha visto influenciada por la presión ejercida por Nokia y Apple que apuestan por una internet móvil cargada de multimedia y de la que ya tienen los codecs [...]

]]> By: Los formatos multimedia Ogg Vorbis / Theora, en vías de extinción a partir de HTML5 | Tecnologia AMPM http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-438095 Los formatos multimedia Ogg Vorbis / Theora, en vías de extinción a partir de HTML5 | Tecnologia AMPM Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:25:46 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-438095 <p>[...] menos que una presión masiva sea ejercida sobre el proceso de edición de la especificación HTML5, el mundo del desarrollo Web continuará evolucionando en pro del establishment de las tecnologías [...]</p> [...] menos que una presión masiva sea ejercida sobre el proceso de edición de la especificación HTML5, el mundo del desarrollo Web continuará evolucionando en pro del establishment de las tecnologías [...]

]]> By: Ogg Vorbis/Theora ha sido eliminado de la especificación de HTML5 | aNieto2K http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-437889 Ogg Vorbis/Theora ha sido eliminado de la especificación de HTML5 | aNieto2K Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:20:26 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-437889 <p>[...] decisión se ha visto influenciada por la presión ejercida por Nokia y Apple que apuestan por una internet móvil cargada de multimedia y de la que ya tienen los codecs [...]</p> [...] decisión se ha visto influenciada por la presión ejercida por Nokia y Apple que apuestan por una internet móvil cargada de multimedia y de la que ya tienen los codecs [...]

]]> By: html5 - big boys set the standard, not the public. « K-Man’s Weblog http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-416406 html5 - big boys set the standard, not the public. « K-Man’s Weblog Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:03:01 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-416406 <p>[...] Link1 - Removal of Ogg Vorbis and Theora from HTML5: an outrageous disaster [...]</p> [...] Link1 - Removal of Ogg Vorbis and Theora from HTML5: an outrageous disaster [...]

]]> By: No numerable · Los lobbys del DRM contra la comunicación libre: OGG y W3C http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-414893 No numerable · Los lobbys del DRM contra la comunicación libre: OGG y W3C Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:46:08 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-414893 <p>[...] en la práctica sin patentes. Esta es la estrategia pro-DRM del lobby Apple-Nokia. A punto está de excluirse OGG de HTML5 y debemos reaccionar: la comunicación libre debe ser un derecho fundamental [...]</p> [...] en la práctica sin patentes. Esta es la estrategia pro-DRM del lobby Apple-Nokia. A punto está de excluirse OGG de HTML5 y debemos reaccionar: la comunicación libre debe ser un derecho fundamental [...]

]]> By: Boycott Novell » Time for Ogg (BoycottNovell and the WeBlob) http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-400754 Boycott Novell » Time for Ogg (BoycottNovell and the WeBlob) Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:55:53 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-400754 <p>[...] Removal of Ogg Vorbis and Theora from HTML5: an outrageous disaster [...]</p> [...] Removal of Ogg Vorbis and Theora from HTML5: an outrageous disaster [...]

]]> By: Co.De. http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-388695 Co.De. Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:01:15 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-388695 <p>This is typical example how corporate technology companies can kill the evolution and keep our development dependent on obsolete formats, only because they decided that their technology is better for us. Indeed, is better for their bank accounts, not for us. Probably is cheaper for Nokia to ignore theora, since they are even thinking about dropping real media from mobile streaming and using just wmv(which i find very unsuitable), its more than obvious.</p> <p>We need free and open source projects to experiment and develop new tools. So on this point i can just say : let's overcome our confusions from too many codecs, formats and overal confusions of end users from it, lets admit that theora is promissing ang good quality format in its class(compare to mpeg4), and let's try to proove to W3C that they are not behavin as neutral consortium, but as a slave of marketers, a lobby for media concerns.</p> <p>Co.De.</p> This is typical example how corporate technology companies can kill the evolution and keep our development dependent on obsolete formats, only because they decided that their technology is better for us. Indeed, is better for their bank accounts, not for us. Probably is cheaper for Nokia to ignore theora, since they are even thinking about dropping real media from mobile streaming and using just wmv(which i find very unsuitable), its more than obvious.

We need free and open source projects to experiment and develop new tools. So on this point i can just say : let’s overcome our confusions from too many codecs, formats and overal confusions of end users from it, lets admit that theora is promissing ang good quality format in its class(compare to mpeg4), and let’s try to proove to W3C that they are not behavin as neutral consortium, but as a slave of marketers, a lobby for media concerns.

Co.De.

]]> By: Los lobbys del DRM contra la comunicación libre: OGG y W3C « Camyna http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-388584 Los lobbys del DRM contra la comunicación libre: OGG y W3C « Camyna Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:10:24 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-388584 <p>[...] en la práctica sin patentes. Esta es la estrategia pro-DRM del lobby Apple-Nokia. A punto está de excluirse OGG de HTML5 y debemos reaccionar: la comunicación libre debe ser un derecho fundamental humano. Noticias [...]</p> [...] en la práctica sin patentes. Esta es la estrategia pro-DRM del lobby Apple-Nokia. A punto está de excluirse OGG de HTML5 y debemos reaccionar: la comunicación libre debe ser un derecho fundamental humano. Noticias [...]

]]> By: palm http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-388290 palm Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:32:58 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-388290 <p>i desire to my little daughter, a world with choices. a lot of choices. if i close any possible door, to any possibility, i have less choice to my daughter. i want to make a better world, making stuffs in my country, with my people. and communicate my people with another people over the world. i need options to do it. ogg lives.</p> i desire to my little daughter, a world with choices. a lot of choices. if i close any possible door, to any possibility, i have less choice to my daughter. i want to make a better world, making stuffs in my country, with my people. and communicate my people with another people over the world. i need options to do it. ogg lives.

]]> By: as days pass by, by Stuart Langridge » Blog Archive » Reigniting the browser wars http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-388129 as days pass by, by Stuart Langridge » Blog Archive » Reigniting the browser wars Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:39:12 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-388129 <p>[...] CSS Working Group to be immediately disbanded, Opera file an antitrust complaint against Microsoft, the HTML5 spec removes a recommendation for non-patent-encumbered video formats after pressure from Nokia and Apple, and all the old fights start up again. Fire and brimstone [...]</p> [...] CSS Working Group to be immediately disbanded, Opera file an antitrust complaint against Microsoft, the HTML5 spec removes a recommendation for non-patent-encumbered video formats after pressure from Nokia and Apple, and all the old fights start up again. Fire and brimstone [...]

]]> By: Ã…smund http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-387888 Ã…smund Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:55:20 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-387888 <p>Thank you for being a voice for an open internet. It is so wrong to close publication possibilities to the internet for people with limited money resources.</p> Thank you for being a voice for an open internet. It is so wrong to close publication possibilities to the internet for people with limited money resources.

]]> By: » Los lobbys del DRM contra la comunicación libre: OGG y W3C deUgarte.com http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-387855 » Los lobbys del DRM contra la comunicación libre: OGG y W3C deUgarte.com Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:08:25 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-387855 <p>[...] y en la práctica sin patentes. Esta es la estrategia pro-DRM del lobby Apple-Nokia. A punto está de excluirse OGG de HTML5 y debemos reaccionar: la comunicación libre debe ser un derecho fundamental humano. Guardado por [...]</p> [...] y en la práctica sin patentes. Esta es la estrategia pro-DRM del lobby Apple-Nokia. A punto está de excluirse OGG de HTML5 y debemos reaccionar: la comunicación libre debe ser un derecho fundamental humano. Guardado por [...]

]]> By: Sourfizz » HTML5 Working Group Rejects Open Media Formats http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-an-outrageous-disaster/#comment-387283 Sourfizz » HTML5 Working Group Rejects Open Media Formats Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:15:17 +0000 http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/12/11/removal-of-ogg-vorbis-and-theora-from-html5-its-outrageous-and-preposterous/#comment-387283 <p>[...] Amador has detailed why he believes the decision to omit these open formats to be an “outrageous disaster”: (Given) the fact that there are widely available patent-free implementations of Ogg technology, [...]</p> [...] Amador has detailed why he believes the decision to omit these open formats to be an “outrageous disaster”: (Given) the fact that there are widely available patent-free implementations of Ogg technology, [...]

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