Slow news day, so I’ll just rip a moron apart

Okay, here’s an insightful reader’s comment:

Matt’s right. You ARE a crybaby who thinks people you have absolutely none nothing for OWE you something. Wake up Brat.

And further down the drain in his comment:

You ARE a lamer. The fact you have been “managing” Linux since 1998 means nothing except you DON’T know as much as you think you do about anything. Only a true moron like yourself would try claim or imply that they are an “EXPERT” on something by claiming they have been using it for “X” number of years. That doesn’t make you an “Expert”, it makes you an ASS

OK, time for the response fest:

Excuse me… but I fail to understand the grammar in your prose. Can you explain yourself a bit better?

Do you know the definition of “brat”? Do you honestly think my complaint is somehow unfounded, or based on non-facts? Yours are big words to go throwing around.

I’ve been with Linux since 1998, and I’ve been using command-line RPM and rpmbuild for several years now. Back in the day, when Mandriva was called Linux Mandrake, one of my free software applications (now quasi-abandoned but still functional) was even included in the main distribution (yes, I built the RPM, which then got Mandrakeized a bit more by Mandrake packagers).

So, what was the latest thing you ever did that could be construed as credentials that would rightfully entitle you you to come barging in here loudmouthing my commentary? Perhaps you work with Alan Cox? Or, you’re Richard Stallman’s personal aide. Nono, wait, you’re the real author of Perl and Sendmail, but there was a conspiracy to take credit for it away from you.

Or, most likely, you haven’t even buffed Miguel de Icaza’s shoes, and he wouldn’t even let you, given the chance.

Finally, it’s a widely understood fact that the more you use and do something, the more experience you acquire with the subject matter. Experience… expert… do those words sound similar? That’s because they are. Your unique thesis that spending time doing something tends to increase ASSiness instead… well that’s something you’re going to have to back with facts.

Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I’m going to make a simple assertion that was already implied in my last post (and, apparently, you took offense by my implication):

I know Linux and Free Software more than you could ever conceive to be possible in that blob of grey matter behind your thick forehead. Name any RPM package name and I’ll tell you what it does. I’ve compiled countless kernels and application software — and to keep my software neatly organized, I prepare my own RPMs to install on my computer. I’ve written applications in C, GTK+, Qt, Java, Python, heck, even CPython modules. I eat PHP and Python for breakfast, and I deploy my Web sites using Subversion. I keep all of my work under version control. I automate nightly backups using rsync onto a LUKS-encrypted md volume atop an LVM logical volume composed of two physical partitions on two separate hard disks.

So what do you do to feel all powerful and hackerish? Open KSysGuard and throw a few SIGKILLs around? Do you even known what a SIGKILL is?

Next time you want to call someone an ass, please consider staring at your own image in a mirror and saying “ASS” out loud. Now please go get fucked in the ASS.

Some more responses, this time from Eric Laffoon:

I have to agree. His writing is an emberassment, and at the end he offers his “skills” for hire. He seems to miss that 1) Fedora is a “beta” for a server package,

Two factual errors in one phrase. Again, how do you spell “emberassment”? Then, Fedora is not a beta for a server package, and calling it that is an insult to the Fedora project.

2) upgrades will repackage and cause conflicts

They don’t have to. That’s the entire point of the article.

Okay, anything else you’d like explained, Eric Buffoon?

There’s this guy called Jon:

He uses an unsupported package manager, on a development distro, and complains it doesn’t work. And this is somehow “rpm hell”? Besides, the development branch of Fedora Core breaks. Often.

Smart of you to restate things in terms of factual mistakes. Rather, I’m using the unquestionably best package manager that exists in the entire world, on Fedora Core 5 (because, if you read the article correctly, you’ll know I haven’t upgraded because I haven’t been able to). Then the development branch of FC breaks, and I can agree with that, but that doesn’t apply here (see argument number 2).

There’s Mike R.:

This guy needs real help. He’s trying to blame the problem on someone else when the problem is his. He installed the other packages, and expects that the package maintainers will know that he needs something special. If this were the case, then they would have to contact everyone using the software to see just what they needed.

The Ekiga package has an overly zealous dependency. Lather, rinse, repeat for approx. 1500 RPM packages. Is that so hard to understand? Do I really need real help? Why? I could just rpmbuild --rebuild the Ekiga source package… but the entire point of the article is not having to do that — and I won’t. Evidently, at some point I’ll have to update Ekiga to an RPM package that doesn’t have these packaging bugs… but how long will I have to wait… two, three years?

He obviously can’t create his own packages, so he blames others for his problem. He could download the source rpm, and change the spec file to whatever he needed. Problem solved.

Amarok packages built by me. Shut the fuck up.

4 Responses to “Slow news day, so I’ll just rip a moron apart”

  1. Rudd-O Says:

    Naturally, the moron coward that is the now-immortalized commenter left a fake e-mail address.

  2. warner Says:

    You are dancing with trolls I suspect, and letting them lead you down fruitless paths.

    A place in discussion that includes you telling someone to “please go get fucked in the ASS” is far from issues of package management, you are following trolls, you are wasting bandwidth and showing yourself poorly.

    I have general regard for what you have posted, anonymous posters offering fallacious dances & personal attacks, … it’s trolls man, not fruitful.

    Best Regards,

    warner

  3. Bill Murray Says:

    Hi Rudd-O; You are quite correct; the rpm slopiness you describe leads to much wasted work in the long term. Doing something right, taking time to prepare it pays dividends in the end. Many people (like me) are happy if they can make an rpm at all. You did perhaps raise the temperature with your headline: My personal impression is that this is an improving situation, compared with a few years ago. Perhpas that is because many old ‘rpm hell’ problems are solved by yum without me having to think. Does Ubuntu really solve the problem? As you say, the problem is sloppy use, not fundamental to rpm. Bill

  4. Rudd-O Says:

    I’m actually having fun with trolls… who knew they could be a source of so much content for this blog? :-)

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